Talk:John McKay (Ontario politician, born 1948)

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On 23 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from John McKay (politician) to John McKay (Ontario politician, born 1948). The result of the discussion was moved.

Move C-300 content to existing article on C-300 ?

There is a comment on the page that the McKay article is too much about private members bills. The C-300 discussion, which I think is an important and interesting topic, is now quite long, and considerably longer than the short paragraph on Bill C-300 in an existing Wikipedia article on the Bill.

I propose to move the C-300 content to the dedicated article, and replace with a shorter (neutral) reference in the McKay article - please speak-up if you disagree.

DiligentDavidG (talk), 20 Mar 2010 18:00 EST —Preceding undated comment added 22:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

from VfD

On 15 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/John McKay for a record of the discussion.

Anti-gay?

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McKay is a ardent social conservative and fought strongly against same-sex marriage; he has consistently opposed any legislation which supported equal rights for gay and lesbian Canadians.

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This text was removed from the main page. Anybody have a reference for it? EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 19:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) jlwoodwa (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John McKay (politician) → John McKay (Ontario politician, born 1948) – Dab from others with same name. Awkward but all less specific disambiguators I can think of are ambiguous with either John McKay (New Brunswick politician) or John P. MacKay. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 19:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there are not a lot of good choices here are there. Politician seems to be too ambiguous for certain, and that overall category looks like it needs help on that DAB page. I'm not very familiar with the Canadian political structure, what is the difference between MP and MPP? And might that be of assistance here? Such as John McKay (Ontario MPP) and John McKay (Ontario MP)? Of course that looks like for MPP, there is both John P. MacKay and John_McKay_(MPP). Although perhaps the latter John could actually be parenthetically referenced as a physician, since that tenure seems longer than his political role (although his notability in general seems quite thin). TiggerJay (talk) 07:40, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pppery - any thoughts on the above? TiggerJay (talk) 01:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That might work, but seems a bit vague for my taste. State legislative members are autonotable per WP:NPOL so John McKay (MPP) is notable. And he's notable because he's a politician, not because he's a physician. So I guess move that article to John McKay (politician, born 1841). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I guess that is the best of the options...so:

John McKay (politician) → John McKay (politician, born 1948)

John McKay (Ontario MPP) → John McKay (politician, born 1941)

and then leave John P. McKay per NATURAL? TiggerJay (talk) 04:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Annoyingly John McKay (New Brunswick politician) was also born 1948. I tried ... * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So I guess that means that we need Ontario and New Brunswick as well then. Ugh! TiggerJay (talk) 05:33, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John McKay (Ontario MPP) redirects to John McKay (MPP), fyi. I've gone ahead and tagged it so we can move it after this elapses. ASUKITE 20:00, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Canadian Wikipedians' notice board, WikiProject Political parties and politicians in Canada, and WikiProject Biography/Politics and government have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 19:58, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relist to give time for newly added pages ASUKITE 19:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. That's the best choice, certainly. Best not to use abbreviations that not everyone may understand. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

For Canadian politicians, we usually DAB by MP or MPP, very rarely do we DAB by birth year. What was wrong with John McKay (Ontario MP) as an alternative? -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is that convention documented somewhere? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:26, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]